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	<title>Comments on: 3D Tile Test</title>
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	<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/</link>
	<description>A chronicle of the development of a video game</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 00:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell you the truth, I really don't like the idea of the 3D. Along with the gameplay, another thing I like about Jetpack are the nice big, blocky, colorful pixels. There are certain instances (like jumping 4 blocks over and 1 up) that you need to jump when the jetman's feet are literally on the last pixel of the floor. With 3D, that won't work. Larger level sizes and more tiles are all you need to create another kick ass game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell you the truth, I really don&#8217;t like the idea of the 3D. Along with the gameplay, another thing I like about Jetpack are the nice big, blocky, colorful pixels. There are certain instances (like jumping 4 blocks over and 1 up) that you need to jump when the jetman&#8217;s feet are literally on the last pixel of the floor. With 3D, that won&#8217;t work. Larger level sizes and more tiles are all you need to create another kick ass game.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravey</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 23:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Well the problem with networked multiplayer on a fixed-screen non scrolling game, is (I think) the flaws inherent in client-prediction would be very obvious. In other words it might look jerky. I may try it though."

Jet Set Willy Online is a pretty good example of where to go with multiplayer, you could use a similar mode to Manic Willy, it's pretty much Manic Miner with other players racing to collect everything and they race through a series of levels. Client prediction wouldn't be an issue because all the players are independant and unable to interact with each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well the problem with networked multiplayer on a fixed-screen non scrolling game, is (I think) the flaws inherent in client-prediction would be very obvious. In other words it might look jerky. I may try it though.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jet Set Willy Online is a pretty good example of where to go with multiplayer, you could use a similar mode to Manic Willy, it&#8217;s pretty much Manic Miner with other players racing to collect everything and they race through a series of levels. Client prediction wouldn&#8217;t be an issue because all the players are independant and unable to interact with each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 12:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this use of 3d for appearance and not complication of gameplay.
It would be brilliant if the eventual graphics are an evolution of the old ones, rather than a complete change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this use of 3d for appearance and not complication of gameplay.<br />
It would be brilliant if the eventual graphics are an evolution of the old ones, rather than a complete change.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give it a shot :p.  Games like the updated lode runner and N+ can pull it off so im sure you can do it too :p.  If you ever do a console version, shoot for 4 players :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give it a shot :p.  Games like the updated lode runner and N+ can pull it off so im sure you can do it too :p.  If you ever do a console version, shoot for 4 players <img src='http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the problem with networked multiplayer on a fixed-screen non scrolling game, is (I think) the flaws inherent in client-prediction would be very obvious.  In other words it might look jerky.  I may try it though.  

A multiplayer mode where both players are on the same computer could work, the only problem I can think of would be the limit of keyboards to report all the keys being held down at once.  If one player is on joystick it would solve that problem though.

I will look into other platforms when the game nears completion.  I'm not a big console fan, but it's possible.  Something portable would be cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the problem with networked multiplayer on a fixed-screen non scrolling game, is (I think) the flaws inherent in client-prediction would be very obvious.  In other words it might look jerky.  I may try it though.  </p>
<p>A multiplayer mode where both players are on the same computer could work, the only problem I can think of would be the limit of keyboards to report all the keys being held down at once.  If one player is on joystick it would solve that problem though.</p>
<p>I will look into other platforms when the game nears completion.  I&#8217;m not a big console fan, but it&#8217;s possible.  Something portable would be cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is amazing.  I mention jetpack to everyone and how it was a loved classic as a child.  I always dreamed of a jetpack 2 with multiplayer support.  Please tell me your going to put in multiplayer (co-op) support in this game.  Its the one thing I felt was truly missing from the first game.  This game is very similar to games like load runner and N+ in style.  N+ is one of my favorite games of all time now thanks to the co-op and level editor.  Jetpack 2 could easily be that new game.

Also, have you ever considered a XBLA release for the 360?  You would probably make more money off the game going that route rather then a pc flash version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is amazing.  I mention jetpack to everyone and how it was a loved classic as a child.  I always dreamed of a jetpack 2 with multiplayer support.  Please tell me your going to put in multiplayer (co-op) support in this game.  Its the one thing I felt was truly missing from the first game.  This game is very similar to games like load runner and N+ in style.  N+ is one of my favorite games of all time now thanks to the co-op and level editor.  Jetpack 2 could easily be that new game.</p>
<p>Also, have you ever considered a XBLA release for the 360?  You would probably make more money off the game going that route rather then a pc flash version.</p>
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		<title>By: primetech</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>primetech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Christian school only had a handful of games that everyone liked. One of those games was the original Jetpack 1.3 demo. We couldn't get past Level 8, and only a few of us knew how to edit multiple levels (go in, save one under a different name, etc...) but we loved it back when we were 11.

I still do. Can't wait to see a beta!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Christian school only had a handful of games that everyone liked. One of those games was the original Jetpack 1.3 demo. We couldn&#8217;t get past Level 8, and only a few of us knew how to edit multiple levels (go in, save one under a different name, etc&#8230;) but we loved it back when we were 11.</p>
<p>I still do. Can&#8217;t wait to see a beta!</p>
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		<title>By: Josef Griffiths</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Josef Griffiths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Adam this is fantastic, what serendipity to find your blog! I used to play Jetpack when I was six, it's an absolute favourite. But I always wondered about that Jetpack 2000 :P

So now that you're bringing it into the new millenium, with Flash no less (yay, embedding!) I must ask: in the original, the maps were played on the one screen - have you considered bigger maps and scrolling? I expect Flash would make easy work of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Adam this is fantastic, what serendipity to find your blog! I used to play Jetpack when I was six, it&#8217;s an absolute favourite. But I always wondered about that Jetpack 2000 <img src='http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So now that you&#8217;re bringing it into the new millenium, with Flash no less (yay, embedding!) I must ask: in the original, the maps were played on the one screen - have you considered bigger maps and scrolling? I expect Flash would make easy work of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, this is very temporary artwork.. just to get an idea of the 3d look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, this is very temporary artwork.. just to get an idea of the 3d look.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.jetpackhq.com/blog/2008/02/16/3d-tile-test/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 00:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm...this is level 1, right?  I like the 3-D effects but it seems kinda weird.  is that ice i see? theres a problem #1 if it is.  and with the sliding thingy moving walkway.  You obviously didnt tranfer all the effects-mainly the ones on top of the tiles it seems-to the 3 dimensions and only added depth to the tiles.  I'm no computer programmer, so i dont know exactly how to say this, but it seems fine except for that and you might want to do something about those ladders; they seem weird being at the end of the tiles...but i dont know how to describe anything.  I guess stuff on top of the tiles is still 2-d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm&#8230;this is level 1, right?  I like the 3-D effects but it seems kinda weird.  is that ice i see? theres a problem #1 if it is.  and with the sliding thingy moving walkway.  You obviously didnt tranfer all the effects-mainly the ones on top of the tiles it seems-to the 3 dimensions and only added depth to the tiles.  I&#8217;m no computer programmer, so i dont know exactly how to say this, but it seems fine except for that and you might want to do something about those ladders; they seem weird being at the end of the tiles&#8230;but i dont know how to describe anything.  I guess stuff on top of the tiles is still 2-d</p>
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